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Posts: 101 03/19/09 08:40:48 |
I still don't understand why KAK isn't bonding with Suri. A bond between a mother and child is very strong. The mom can block out the entire world and
focus on the child. Suri still seems like a prop to KAK. Suri also looks too much like her nanny.
I'm still in the beach ball camp. |
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KidLawless77 |
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Posts: 9093 03/19/09 08:50:03 |
Yeah, mother and child bonds can be very strong, but there are cases where it doesn't happen. (On a personal note, my mother never bonded with me and will
be the first to admit it.) If KAK had PPD and never really wanted to be a mother, I can understand why there would be little to no bond between them. Also, I
would bet money that Suri has been under the care of nannies since she was born, and KAK has had as little contact as she can with her.
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MamaJunebug |
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Posts: 2872 03/19/09 08:54:28 |
NikkisMan wrote:NikkisMan, always good to find a fellow camper! However ... I'm getting really confused by the evident resemblance of Suri to Josh Jackson. Unless JJ was "in" on the insemination plan, which seems really unlikely. No...I've just talked myself back into my camp membership! Babies' and toddlers' looks change monthly if not oftener. Some times I can see my Aunt Patricia in Suri, and I know for sure that fine lady wasn't involved!!! In fact, I posit that they let the poor child's hair grow out over her face, sheepdog-like, to keep the JJ/CK/JH rumors a-flyin'. And if along the way the poor child winds up with a stye or conjunctivitis, well, she pulled it in, damher. Cruise
told "The Daily Mail," in January, 2009, that he first watched "the World at War" when he was 4 or 5 and it made a huge impression on him
about the Second World War.
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KidLawless77 |
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Posts: 9093 03/19/09 09:42:44 |
MamaJuneBug-Re: resemblence-You make a good point. A lot of unrelated people look like each other. JJ/JH/and CK all have a similar look and they aren't
related. Any one of those men along with Cousin Bill could pass as Suri's father, and there is a chance that none of them are related to her.
I have seen a lot of kids who look like Suri. As far as coloring and looks go, a lot of kids look similar. FWIW, I think KAK is her bio-mother, but I wouldn't lay my life on it if only because I knew one guy who was the carbon copy of his mother and it turns out he was adopted. They shared no DNA at all. Not a drop. I always thought Ginnifer Goodwin and KAK could pass as sisters as could Jewel and Renee Z. Skeet Ulrich and Johnny Depp look eerily alike and yet not one of these pairs are related. |
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KidLawless77 |
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Posts: 9093 03/19/09 10:10:27 |
Forgot to add: I have no doubts that had the Mini Messiah been born anywhere near April 18, 2006-be it at home, in a hospital, in a stable-MTP would have
called the press and been posing with his glorious "bio" child for all the world to see. I would bet all the tea in China she was born months earlier
and at the CTC compound surrounded by CO$ people like LMPTS contacts claim. He waited to whore her out at a much later date when it wasn't easy to tell how
old she old.
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GoebbelsRedux |
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Posts: 1685 03/19/09 10:53:44 |
Sing it Sister Kid. Unfortunately for Suri, KAK is her bio-mommy, that semi-defective lower lip is just too telling. And while I'm inclined to believe failure to bond with a narcissistic mother might not be a bad thing, we all know what's going to fill the gaping hole. 
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coreyes |
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Posts: 3210 03/19/09 15:44:00 |
I have seen pics where Suri looks like JJ, then CK then JH then even CB when she was younger. I have seen ONE pic only
 where she actually looked like MTP so go figure. Someone here thought she
looked like Julian Lennon, was it?
My son could pass as my cousins child and the cousin is adopted. Very weird how we can look like someone and not be related so yeah, I agree that theory is probably out the window. And Kidl, so true. Remember the "parting of the curtains" pic where MTP parts KAK's white coat and grasps the beachball her stomach with his hands and his pelvis thrust forward in the most bizarre "my penis did this" pose ever. If KAK had gone to the hospital he would have called the paps to take a shot of them arriving, KAK mid contraction in a wheelchair and after the birth he would have called a press conference on the steps to go through the details of how KAK was so "brave". Will Smith would turn up with a cigar (just as a prop, mind you ) and they would both have done that gay arse (my kids expression) pointing at each other and guffawing like fools. Yep, for this reason alone there was no hosptial birth. |
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Posts: 948 03/19/09 21:14:59 |
About the lack of bond between Katie and Suri. Doesn't Scientology deliberately try to prevent parents, especially mothers, from bonding with their
children? Isn't that why parents are told not to comfort their children when the kids cry, but instead to use silence and touch assists. Hubbard also
declared that breast milk and breast feeding was bad for babies both physically and psychologically. I think there was even something about children doing
best if they're raised by strangers, rather than their parents. If they're raised by their parents they'll inherit "shared engrams" or
some-such nonsense.
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shoegal |
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Posts: 335 03/22/09 16:39:19 |
I really think the long fringe is to try and hide the growing resemblance to her bio-daddy.
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coreyes |
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Posts: 3210 03/22/09 16:55:39 |
I think you may have convinced me, shoegal. (for today, anyway
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Kids in pre school when my kids were that age who had fringes that long were always unkempt kids. I suspect the same here. Despite the designer gear, I think neither Suri or KAK bathe very often. |
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shoegal |
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Posts: 335 03/22/09 17:02:12 |
coreyes wrote: No pressure! I'm not trying to convert anyone, I just personally see such a strong resemblance and I enjoy doing these little photo comparisons. If they were simply growing her fringe out, they should clip it back out of her face - it's important for young, developing eyes to not be obscured like this. |
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roxy76 |
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Posts: 72 03/22/09 17:23:56 |
This is from Hubbards book How to live with children.....
In raising your child, you must avoid "training" him into a social animal. Your child begins by being more sociable, more dignified than you are. In a relatively short time the treatment he gets so checks him that he revolts. This revolt can be intensified until he is a terror to have around. He will be noisy, thoughtless, careless of possessions, unclean-anything, in short, which will annoy you. Train him, control him and you'll lose his love. You've lost the child forever that you seek to control and own. Permit a child to sit on your lap. He'll sit there, contented. Now put your arms around him and constrain him to sit there. Do this even though he wasn't even trying to leave. Instantly, he'll squirm. He'll fight to get away from you. He'll get angry. He'll cry. Recall now, he was happy before you started to hold him. Your efforts to mold, train, control this child in general react on him exactly like trying to hold him on your lap.
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KidLawless77 |
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Posts: 9093 03/22/09 17:33:17 |
roxy76 wrote:I wondered that myself. When she announced she was pregnant, I don't recall them saying how far along she was or when she was due. I would imagine that if Suri was the result of a fling and the father really wanted to know he would have attempted to contact KAK. If he really wanted an answer, he could have demanded a DNA test after the birth or threatened to go to the press. I dunno. . . nothing would suprise me, but I still cannot rule out the possibility Suri was the result of a turkey baster and donor sperm. |
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shoegal |
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Posts: 335 03/22/09 17:58:54 |
KidLawless77 wrote:We are familiar with the extent of the craziness associated with camp cruise and the clams - someone that is not so familiar with the lengths they would go to, would probably not even consider that the pregnancy was extended and the birth date faked to cover a conception in April. Therefore, the bio-daddy may have no idea that Suri is his. I wonder whether his parents may one day notice the resemblance between Suri and the father as a younger child - they would be more likely to notice it than him. But again, unless you know about the shifting bump etc, the dates wouldn't coencide for it to be a possibility that he's the real father. |
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roxy76 |
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Posts: 72 03/22/09 18:03:01 |
Kid I wouldn't be suprised if Suri is a baster baby at all.I think the choice of father would have been under Tommy boys control.I think it would be a
scientologist and someone who looks like Tommy boy so I came up with a guess Tommy Davis Scientology's spokewhore and a very good friend of Tom Cruise
this picture isn't the best but the eyes,lips and chin.
Sorry to add another person to the ever growing list of baby daddy's! |
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KidLawless77 |
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Posts: 9093 03/22/09 18:16:37 |
roxy: Tommy Davis crossed my mind as well!
This is just a tawdry tale, but I worked with a woman years ago who seperated from her husband, dated another man and then got back together with hubby. About 4 months later, she was pregnant by hubby and the guy whom she dated actually called to ask if there was any chance he could be the father. (They both worked in banking and he heard she was pregnant from someone they both knew.) I happened to know this guy. There is no way in hell I could ever see him wanting to be a full-time or even part-time daddy, but he still wanted to know. I would imagine that if KAK was pregnant by a past fling and he had contacted her, it would have drove MTP up the wall. (I have no doubts he would have known about it.) I wonder if Mr. Control Freak could ever get that doubt out of his mind even if KAK gave the performance of the lifetime and denied it and they fudged the birthdate by months. How could he know the guy wouldn't figure it out some day esp. as the child grew older and he was going to see pictures of it in the press? Even if the guy wanted nothing to do with the kid, he may tell SOMEONE. Seriously, if the accounts by former CO$ are anything to go by, the man sounds more than a touch paranoid. He's famous for making non-live in help sign 20 page confidentiality agreements and even made a waiter do that when recently threw a party at his house.
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shoegal |
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Posts: 335 03/22/09 18:17:45 |
roxy76 wrote:Wow - the thought of him being her father nearly made me throw up in my mouth. Poor Suri if that is the case. |
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KidLawless77 |
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Posts: 9093 03/22/09 18:24:08 |
Tommy Davis does have the same coloring. Just sayin'. . . However, I hope for her sake he isn't her bio-daddy.
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coreyes |
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Posts: 3210 03/22/09 20:16:26 |
Hmm.... interesting.And very few need to know if you believe in the basting done in the crude way. All you need is a jar, baster and willing woman. No doctors.
Beats me how ScarJo and others didn't hear about this though and talk, or maybe this is what was thrashed out in the missing fortnight. If she did do this
she is the biggest famewhore to ever live.
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Posts: 1380 03/22/09 20:25:43 |
coreyes wrote: I now have a really sickening mental picture. And you're right, Coreyes. No matter how the basting was done, even if it involved doctors, if true, it shows her as a cold, calculating and selfish beotch. |
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, Tommy Davis, 
