I can hold out for dessert.
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Indeed. A lovely repast so far.
I can hold out for dessert.
"How about that? You hold on to the tin cans and then this guy
asks you a bunch of questions, and if you pay enough money you get to join the master race. How's that for a religion?" -- Frank Zappa, to a concert audience at the Rockpile, Toronto, May 1969 "There's one thing that has stayed constant throughout time. It's an instinctual part of man to conquer evil. The battle of good over evil in this world has not changed. It has remained constant throughout the millennia." - Kyle Thomas Brennan |
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yummydumpling wrote: This is such great news! I may rent the movie "Perfect" tonight! (Am I on the right track? ) A certain celeb is known for coming onto a guy who was an extra in this movie. |
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Charlotte Sometimes wrote:Charlotte-had to do a double take on your name..lol Xenutv has a new piece on this. SLAPPY miscabbage. I love the name Slappy just because it will drive an already insane person crazier and he will further show his a**. I don't wish ill on anyone but this is a mad man running an insane corporation that is evil. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7IteL1yNfo
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char2008, thanks for the link!
I have just spent several several minutes watching WBM, Ms. Scobee and Mr. Rathbun and am so incredibly glad to have done so. If the St. Petersburg Times doesn't win a Pulitzer at least for this coverage, there is no justice in the journalistic world. Bless them!
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Tommy Davis is the new Lee Anne Devette!! I LOVE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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madame duran wrote: He certainly handled that British documentary production well. I think that one earned him some sweet RPF time. |
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nanuq wrote: No doubt about that. There's a video somewhere of him, appearing on a live feed to "handle" a morning show host about one of the more recent flaps, and he literally looked like he was punchy, and fighting to stay awake. Folks in the know over on OCMB were remarking that he certainly had been brought off of RPF for the interview. Reading and listening to Rathbun talk about how that exact thing happens -- when David Miscavige pulls executives off of RPF, has them shower and shave and dress for appearances at large gatherings to give the impression of prosperity, and then sends them right back to RPF -- it certainly seems probable.
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Tom Davis is the son of actress Ann Archer (who is also a Scieno). I wonder what she feels, seeing her son act craaazy for the CoS. I also think it's
"amazing" that Co$ is admitting to overboarding people and the group confession sessions, and acting like it's totally normal.
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ETA: Did anyone else notice the mentions of our old friend, Jessica Feshbach? She was Katie's original Scieno minder and "best friend" when Katie first started dating Tom Cruise. Jessica was the one who fed Katie answers in that bizarre W mag interview.
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crackles, I did note Jessica Feschbach working as a shill for the cult, and felt sorry that her being out of the spotlight didn't mean she was out of the
cult.
As to how Anne Archer is taking this all, the incredibly gifted Wieber, over at OCMB, posted this in a thread on the topic of where all the celebri$cienos had gone, and why they weren't defending their great (barf) leader. It's funny, sad and possibly closer to true than we'll ever know:
"Go to Guns!" What's that, Tom? Violence against who? Psychiatrists? That's not good!
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Here's a link where you can read various letters to the editor regarding the St. Petersburg Times article:
http://www.tampabay.com/opinion/letters/article1013769.ece This one caught my eye:
"If you want to know the character of a man, don't ask his ex-wife." This is highly ironic since the Church of Scientology, in trying to discredit the reputation of the "apostates", did not hesitate to use the negative reports of their ex-spouses. These former partners were brought in to the St. Petersburg news office along with Tommy Davis, the CoS spokesperson. The cult members want us to look at ex-church members with suspicion yet they don't expect us to hold the same view in regards to the claims made by the ex-spouses? Yeah, right. Speaking of wives...where is Shelley Miscavige? What kind of character does a man have when his wife goes missing for over a year (or two?) and he makes no reference to her absence whatsoever? Are the two even married anymore? Have the loyal Scientologists Miscavigists replaced Shelley--either figuratively or literally? Maybe the above quote should read, "If you want to know the character of a man, you need to find his wife first. If he can't tell you where she is, you'll know he's got something to hide". The St. Petersburg exposé article is indeed "the other side of the story"...the part of the story that the Church of Scientology refuses to tell!! Left up to the cult, there would NEVER be any critical word written or said about it and even if there was the odd negative report on Scientology, it would automatically be labelled as "untrue". No further questioning allowed. The good news is that most of the letters to the editor are appreciative of the newspaper article.
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Allegations against Scientology's leader out there, but all else is normalBy David DeCamp and Mike Brassfield, Times Staff Writers
CLEARWATER - Allegations of physical abuse, destruction of evidence and punishment rituals in the upper echelons of the Church of Scientology left some local political leaders saying they were shocked and disturbed. But among leaders who have reached out to the church, those contacted by the St. Petersburg Times say they aren't ready to distance themselves from Scientology and its sizeable membership after a recent Times series detailing accusations from former church executives. While some in the community saw potential for a new chill to seep into civic and church relations, many officials said in interviews that they viewed the stories as focused on Scientology's California-based leadership, not the residents they deal with. Although she was "taken aback by some of the subject matter" of the reports, Pinellas County Commissioner Susan Latvala said, "I don't think it's going to change anything. ... They're here. I mean, people read it. It wasn't a topic on the street." "Their candidate forum is the biggest candidate forum ... in the county," Latvala said, adding that she would probably attend a 2010 forum. After secretly moving into Clearwater three decades ago, the church used to be politically radioactive in the Tampa Bay area, but eventually became less so. Members of Congress, state lawmakers, county commissioners and other officials attend galas and functions at Scientology's Fort Harrison Hotel. At times, a few officials have pushed for legislation supported by the church, which counts thousands of members in the bay area. In the Times series, former high-level Scientology executives alleged that the church's worldwide leader, David Miscavige, beat them. They said he repackaged old Scientology texts to pump up revenue. And Marty Rathbun, former top deputy to Miscavige, revealed he destroyed evidence to cover up church staffers' treatment of Lisa McPherson, a Scientology parishioner who died while in the church's care. Church representatives and lawyers said the accounts of the former executives were untrue. Church officials in Clearwater did not return a request for comment for this story. Will the revelations change relations between Scientology and the public and their elected officials? "Absolutely, I think much of the stories confirm the heightened attention on the role of Scientology, and could turn out to be very unsettling on the church's relationship and its continuing outreach," said Pinellas County Commissioner Karen Seel, who has never been warm to Scientology and contends the church's high profile hampers the city's redevelopment of downtown. Other officials expect no changes. Some distanced themselves from the church. Some say they simply make a practice of talking to all of their constituents. Several wouldn't return phone calls. Pinellas-Pasco Public Defender Bob Dillinger said the recent news reports won't change his relationship with Scientology officials in Clearwater. This spring, the church gave Dillinger research to back his case as he pushed the Legislature for changes limiting the use of psychotropic drugs on children in state care. "I don't think the church (leaders) would have been very happy about it (the series), but I never deal with those people," he said, though he has met the California-based Miscavige a few times. Some of the allegations came from people with "impeachable points," Dillinger said, "but there certainly was smoke." The Clearwater view The subject hits home for officials in Clearwater, the church's spiritual headquarters, where Scientologists own scores of businesses and are active in civic affairs, even as part of the population deeply distrusts the church. City Manager Bill Horne read the recent Times articles closely because he recalls dealing with Rathbun, Mike Rinder and Tom De Vocht, the former high-ranking Scientology executives who made the allegations against Miscavige. The Times stories recounted occasions when Miscavige made Scientology leaders jump into pools fully clothed as punishment. His accusers said he made staffers play musical chairs, threatening to banish the losers to far-flung outposts, even if it separated families. Scientology said the former church officials were themselves the transgressors and produced documents from their "ethics files" in which they confessed to misconduct and lavishly praised Miscavige. The series "was an inside-baseball look at church operations internally, and it certainly was shocking," Horne said. But it won't change how the city deals with Scientology on issues like building permits and downtown redevelopment: "We have a very professional, straightforward relationship with local church officials." In 2007, Horne and Mayor Frank Hibbard met with Miscavige at Clearwater's City Hall. They say they pressed him to finish Scientology's large Flag Building downtown, which has sat vacant for six years and racked up about $250,000 in fines. They asked him to do away with the uniforms that hundreds of church staffers wear as they walk in groups around downtown. They said Miscavige said Scientology will finish the building soon and will pay the fines, but won't change the uniforms. "The uniforms make other people downtown feel like a minority, and if you feel like a minority you don't feel comfortable," said Hibbard, who hasn't attended Scientology functions for years. Other Clearwater City Council members don't have close ties to the church but participate in Scientology events to varying degrees, such as its annual Winter Wonderland celebration during Christmas season. Said John Doran: "Nobody likes to hear these things about any organization. But for all practical purposes ... it's an internal kind of deal. I've never really had any contact with the upper echelons of the church." 'Invaluable service' After strained relations between Scientology and the community began to thaw, a watershed moment occurred in 2002 at the church's 75th anniversary party at the Fort Harrison Hotel. The guest list was a who's who of local political, civic and business leaders. After that, dozens of local bigwigs began attending annual soirees there. Scientologists get officials together with celebrities like John Travolta and Tom Cruise. They hold events touting the church's stance on mental health and substance abuse programs. State Sen. Dennis Jones, who represents Clearwater, recognized Scientology's "invaluable service to the people of Clearwater" at a 2004 gala, and a photo of him in a tuxedo posing with a plaque graces a Scientology Web site. But this week, Jones didn't return calls seeking comment. Neither did Pinellas County Sheriff Jim Coats or U.S. Rep. Gus Bilirakis, who have attended several Scientology events. Local Scientologist Brett Miller is on a Bilirakis advisory board. Miller also is vice chairman of Florida Citizens for Social Reform, a political action group formed by Scientologists who hold candidate forums at the Fort Harrison. Miller notes that other religious organizations are active in politics as well. "We're a part of the community just like anybody else," he said. County Commissioner Calvin Harris of Clearwater said he'll deal with the church as he would any other constituent. In fact, he lauded Scientology's help with getting the word out about the 2010 Census. And, unlike the bitter days of years ago, Harris can pick up the phone and ask the church for help. "It is just nothing like it was," he said. "It's just 1,000 degrees different, if that's possible." David DeCamp can be reached at ddecamp@sptimes.com or (727) 445-4167. Mike Brassfield can be reached at brassfield@sptimes.com or (727) 445-4160. Never discuss Scientology with the critic. Just discuss his or her crimes, known and unknown.
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Truth is revealed yet the politicians of Pinellas County/Clearwater, FL choose to be in bed with the cult. The prominent message they're sending is,
"Yeah, the stories of abuse are disturbing but that stuff doesn't concern me because it all happens down in California and I don't deal with those
people". Oh, my bad...I didn't know that engaging one's moral conscience was restricted to one's own state lines.
The other message seems to be, "We don't want to disturb our chances of
being invited to enjoy another fancy dinner at the Fort Harrison". What is particularly irksome is how the Clearwater City Council--especially Mayor
Hibbard and City Manager Bill Horne--continues to give benefit of the doubt to the church despite their unfulfilled promise of finishing the Super Power
Building (an eyesore within the city centre lasting for 8 years running) and the public defections of 3 key church cult officials with whom they used to work closely. For most people, that kind of evidence would give them
pause for thought; for Clearwater officials, they just keep talking blindly about downtown redevelopment as if nothing is wrong. Gabe Cesarez must be rolling
in his grave. When will the local citizenry rise up in outrage? When will these stupid, selfish, corrupt politicians be held accountable? When is the next
municipal elections??
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It's stupid that they claim all these things happen in California. Lisa Mcpherson died in the Fort Harrison hotel, the same hotel that these politicians
are going to for the Co$ events. The cover up of her death was done by Scienos in Clearwater. Gabe Cesarez was the former mayor of Clearwater, and the
Scienos tried to frame him in a hit and run accident. Etc, etc.
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In continuation of the special reports from the St. Petersburg Times ("The Truth Rundown"):
1. Newspaper article: Strength in their numbers: More Church of Scientology defectors come forward with accounts of abuseIn Print: Sunday, August 2, 2009 They are stepping forward - from Dallas and Denver, Portland, Las Vegas, Montana - talking about what happened, to them and their friends, during their years in the Church of Scientology. Jackie Wolff wept as she recalled the chaotic night she was ordered to stand at a microphone in the mess hall and confess her "crimes" in front of 300 fellow workers, many jeering and heckling her. Gary Morehead dredged up his recollection of Scientology leader David Miscavige punishing venerable church leaders by forcing them to live out of tents for days, wash with a garden hose and use an open latrine. Steve Hall replayed his memory of a meeting when Miscavige grabbed the heads of two church executives and knocked them together. One came away with a bloody ear. Mark Fisher remembered precisely what he told Miscavige after the punches stopped and Fisher touched his head, looked at his palm and saw blood. These and other former Scientology staffers are talking now, inspired and emboldened by the raw revelations of four defectors from the church's executive ranks who broke years of silence in stories published recently by the St. Petersburg Times. Those behind-the-scenes accounts from Marty Rathbun and Mike Rinder, the highest officials ever to leave Scientology, were buttressed by detailed revelations of highly placed former managers Amy Scobee and Tom De Vocht. Now their stories have prompted other former Scientology veterans to go public about physical and mental abuses they say they witnessed and endured. Some want to support and defend the initial four, whom church representatives labeled as liars attempting a coup. Others say they feel more secure now that Rathbun, Rinder and the others are on the record with their unprecedented accounts of life on the inside. But fear still prevents many defectors from talking. For every former church staffer willing to speak out, one or two more refused. Those who talked confirm the earlier defectors' stories of erratic, dehumanizing treatment and provide a deeper view into the controlling environment in which members of the religious order known as the Sea Org live and work. Four men joined Rinder, De Vocht and Rathbun in saying: David Miscavige assaulted me. Church spokesman Tommy Davis said the new defectors' accounts of physical abuse by Miscavige are "false and categorically denied." "It is clear that these new 'accounts' were stirred up by your recent articles," Davis said in a written statement, "and are nothing more than the ranting of anti-Scientologists on the grassy knoll of the Internet corroborating each other." The church provided the Times two dozen written declarations from current and former church executives and staffers. Referring to those statements, Davis said: "You have been provided with volumes of evidence to show that your original sources are delusionary, bitter and dishonest; your new sources are more of the same." Those new sources are men and women who joined Scientology as children, teenagers or young adults and spent decades laboring to advance the mission envisioned by Scientology founder L. Ron Hubbard. Morehead, who drives a tow truck in Portland and spent almost a decade as security chief at the church's sprawling base outside Los Angeles, described how Miscavige struck a church executive in the chest so hard, "I could hear the hollow thump and see (him) lose his breath from the impacts.'' How does Morehead manage such recall after 15 years? "It's just like you remember when you touch a hot stove," he said. "You're never going to do it again, right? It hurts, there's pain … "Well, it's as clear and conceptual as that is. I have a hard time remembering my address, but I can certainly remember this. You hold on to this because what the hell could you have done then, and what the hell can you do now?" A new awareness Like countless college kids in the mid 1970s, Steve Hall was searching for meaning in life. He stumbled across a personality test he picked up a couple of years earlier at a Rolling Stones concert and stuck in a drawer. He sent it in and got a call. "I asked the girl what Scientology was, and she said it's a way you can become more aware. … She summed up everything that I wanted at the time." Hall got involved with the church to the point that his mother hired a "deprogrammer" from Los Angeles to come to Dallas and get her son out. Hall says he threatened to kill the guy if he ever contacted his mother again. In the mid 1980s, Hall landed what he imagined would be his dream assignment: A position living and working at the 500-acre "Int" base, east of Los Angeles, home to top church executives and Golden Era Productions, the church's media and publications division. But it was no dream. "There was this incredible atmosphere of people not being in communication. People seemed afraid to speak to each other. … Nobody was laughing for the most part. It was very somber and solemn. … That did not at all seem in keeping with anything I'd ever experienced with Scientology because everywhere else I'd been it was just the reverse. People were laughing and joking." Hall joined the church marketing unit in 1987, which brought him into more frequent contact with Miscavige, who holds the title Chairman of the Board, or COB. Hall said it was a shock the first time he saw Miscavige attack an executive, Ray Mithoff. The second time was like something out of a cartoon. Hall says Miscavige came up behind two seated executives - Marc Yager and Guillaume Lesevre - grabbed their heads and banged them together. Then he ground them against each other. Lesevre had blood coming out of his ear. Then came the time when Hall and about 20 others were summoned to the Religious Technology Center headquarters. "You don't get called up to Building 50 because it's some good news or something fun. It was always like everybody would literally be in terror. You were supposed to sprint from wherever you were up to Building 50, which is way the hell up the hill." The group took their seats, the chairs in rows, spaced about 2 to 3 feet apart in all directions. Huffing and puffing, Hall said he worked to keep his breathing under control, so he wouldn't get singled out. "You end up waiting a long time. Nobody f------ breathes, no one says anything. It's dead quiet. You could hear a pin drop. Everybody's just … waiting. Then finally COB walks in. "He starts walking amongst us. Never says a word. Just stops and glares at each person. Sometimes he stops and sometimes he doesn't stop. When he got in front of me he stopped, he looked at me, I looked back at him, careful not to seem to be resisting or whatever. "He took a step forward. He stopped. He looked back at me again. He backed up, he looked at me even closer. He said, 'He's out-ethics. That son of a b---- is out-ethics,' " he's breaking the rules of Scientology. "Then he walked on, he walked down the aisle, looked at a couple other people, turned to start going down the next aisle right where Marc Yager was sitting on the end. And then suddenly, without warning, he starts slapping the bejesus out of Marc Yager, open-handed." There were as many as 10 head slaps. Yager didn't resist, just put his arms up and took it. For Hall, the last straw came in November 2003. Hall wrote scripts for Scientology videos and had been assigned to work under Mike Rinder, the church's chief spokesman. Hall says he had creative differences with Miscavige, which was a problem, because nobody is to question the COB. Miscavige came by to see an edited video. "He ordered Mike and me stand shoulder to shoulder. … So Rinder and I are pressed up against each other, and right up in front of us is DM … and he says, 'Play the video.' " The video over, Miscavige drew close. "He was standing there sort of at attention. He looks at me, he looks at Rinder. He looks at me, he looks back at Rinder. And then suddenly, with violence, he flashed his arms up and grabbed Mike Rinder's head and body-slammed his head into the cherry wood cabinets. "He lifted Mike Rinder nearly off of his feet and smashed his head into the wall, and he banged his head into the wall three times, just BANG, BANG, BANG!" A dozen others watched. "But everybody's afraid to move, because anything you did would be like, 'Are you making me wrong?' Don't make COB wrong. So if you showed any kind of reaction or upset, you would be, 'making COB wrong.' " Miscavige left the room. "Rinder stood there with his hair mussed, his shirttail out and red marks on his face." "It so could have been me," Hall said. "And that was the message I got was that you're next." Rinder said Miscavige abused him so often that his recollections of specific attacks sometimes run together. Asked about Hall's account, he said, "That happened more than once." Though long disillusioned with his life in the Sea Org, Hall said he didn't want to leave his wife, who was also a staffer. He finally accepted that he had to give up her and everything else. His last day, church security went through his belongings and confiscated photos of his wife. They videotaped a lawyer posing questions and Hall taking blame for any problems he had with the church. He also promised never to sue the church. "I had one last goodbye with my wife. … They told me she doesn't want to go with you and it was her decision, we didn't influence her in any way. They said you could talk … they led us to rooms." In tears, they hugged. "She told me all the rooms were bugged. She whispered all the rooms were bugged and they could probably hear it." Focus on expansion Miscavige, 49, has been intense and demanding since he started working full time for Scientology at age 16 in Clearwater. He quickly proved himself and was handpicked to work at Hubbard's side, at Scientology's administrative headquarters in California. The founder gave his young aide one important assignment after another. Miscavige delivered, building a reputation as a problem solver. He persuaded Hubbard's wife to resign as head of the church's troubled intelligence unit, known as the Guardian's Office. Hubbard died in 1986 and Miscavige took control, asserting himself over other department heads and church executives. In the early 1990s, he earned admiration throughout the ranks in leading an unyielding effort to win the church a tax exemption from the IRS. This decade he has pushed church expansion, extending Scientology's reach into more than 60 countries with a sustained campaign to build new churches, remodel existing facilities, translate Hubbard's teachings into the languages of target markets and disseminate the church's community outreach materials worldwide. Miscavige is deeply admired, church officials say, not only by the thousands of staffers in the Sea Org, but by millions of Scientology parishioners worldwide. "Any Scientologist of any duration will tell you that the church wouldn't be here if it wasn't for David Miscavige," church spokesman Davis said in interviews with the Times in May and June. Nine new churches opened since 2004. This year, the church will set a record, opening eight more, he said. "It's just unbelievable what's happened in the world of Scientology. It's a renaissance. It's a revitalization. It's everything we always dreamed of." In his letter to the Times last week, Davis said that as in the first stories, the new defectors are twisting church practices and discipline to make the normal seem "abnormal and abusive. They know this could not be further from the truth." CAMPING OUT Shelly Corrias gave nearly two decades to the dedicated work force known as the Sea Org. She left in 2002. She remembers the time Miscavige punished top staffers Norman Starkey and Greg Wilhere, ordering them to camp out in tents for days in a high, open area of the mountainside base, near the Bonnie View mansion built for Hubbard. They were assigned hard labor and forced to shower with a garden hose. Corrias said it was striking to see Starkey - one of Scientology's elder statesmen, who had worked with Hubbard and served as a trustee of his estate - treated so crudely. Said Corrias: "How can you take these high executives and send them up to sleep on the ground and they can't even go to the dining room to eat, their food brought up to them?" "He particularly picked on Norman," said Claire Headley, who worked on Miscavige's staff for eight years before leaving the Sea Org in 2005. She said the leader often tried to take Starkey "off his high horse" and once made him wear a name tag that said "figure head." Morehead, the security chief, said Miscavige sent him to town to buy camping gear for another group that faced the tent punishment: Starkey, Yager and Mithoff. Miscavige made them set up camp at night and came by to shine a flashlight in their eyes, and he recalled the way Miscavige taunted them as they struggled to assemble their gear in the dark: You guys think you're so hot? If only the rest of the Sea Org could see you now! He ordered that a portable toilet be set out in the open, no privacy, Morehead said, and posted guards to watch them round the clock. Nobody protested, they just took their punishment. Morehead said he told Miscavige that he had turned off the sprinkler system, but the leader told him to turn it back on so a shower would roust them in the morning. "He was giddy about what was going on with these guys," Morehead said. "They were just a joke, proving him right. It was acknowledging of the fact that he brought them there because they were just incompetents." Two more staffers - Mike Sutter and a woman named Hare O'Hare - later were placed on the same punishment with the three executives. Morehead said O'Hare was not exempt from Miscavige's order that no one bathe or use the toilet in private. A cruel confessional As many as 400 staffers were summoned to the mess hall, where a small group of staffers were given special seats of dishonor. Church executives would
introduce them with scorching assessments of their recent performance. "They had to get up one at a time into a microphone and confess their crimes,"
said Jeff Hawkins, who left the Sea Org in 2005. The crowd screamed and jeered. "They're out for blood so … you have to make it sound good. Otherwise
they'll just shout you down," Hawkins said. "I saw people just led away in tears from that treatment."
Wolff says she tried to answer: There are only four of us on the assembly line. If we speed it up, the quality will suffer. I just don't know. "The feeling of standing up there in front of all these people was very intimidating and very scary," she said. "It was like your life was on the line. And to me it wasn't Scientology any more." Three months later, Wolff ended her 23-year career in the Sea Org. Running in search of answer There's a spiritual exercise in Scientology called the "Cause Resurgence Rundown.'' You run around a circular track, at your own pace, until you reach a point that "you have a realization that you're in control of your own body and mind.'' That's according to Marty Rathbun, a defector who once was one of the top church officials charged with protecting Scientology's religious practices. Church founder L. Ron Hubbard described the running procedure in dispatches but it has not been formally made part of the church practice, Rathbun said, which is why some parishioners would not be familiar with it. It's supposed to be done at the suggestion of a "case supervisor" in charge of the parishioner's spiritual counseling, called "auditing." Rathbun said it's to be done gradually, the person building endurance at his own pace. "The whole thing was about getting a thetan (spirit) centered and getting all of his energies straight,'' Rathbun said. "Miscavige immediately turned it into a torture." Multiple witnesses say the same. As a form of punishment, Sea Org members had to run around a circular dirt track with a pole at the center for hours on end in the desert heat. "You would be on it anywhere from eight to 12 hours a day," Morehead said. "For every hundred people that were out there doing the running program, one of them was there because it was part of their actual (spiritual) progress." Rinder recalls being sent to the track with others to run until they had a "cognition,'' a realization. It was supposed to be about something in their lives - but instead of focusing on themselves, the runners tried to divine what Miscavige wanted to hear so he would end their punishment. "That was all sort of a joke," Rinder said. "What cognition are you supposed to have that will now satisfy Dave? … People spent years trying to figure that out." First-person accounts To the three men who previously told the Times that Miscavige attacked them, add four more. Jeff HawkinS He worked more than 15 years at the base, mostly in marketing and design. His TV spot featuring a rupturing volcano promoted Dianetics, Hubbard's megaselling book. Hawkins recalled the day in 2003 when he and a group of senior staffers toured one of Miscavige's prized construction projects, Building 50, a colossus of buffed metal, chrome and marble. Leading the pack from room to room, Miscavige was every bit the voluble docent, extolling the unique features. "I was standing by the door and as he's walking out and without any warning, he rabbit punches me right in the gut. … Just a quick punch to the stomach, right under the rib cage.'' Another time, a meeting of Hawkins' marketing team, Miscavige turned angry. "He gets pissed off at me for whatever reason. I was usually the punching bag. And he wails on me and knocks me to the ground." "I stand up and he notices my cheek is bleeding. So, he called his assistant (Laurisse Stuckenbrock). He says, 'Lou,' and points to my face. She rummages in her purse and gets out a bottle of antiseptic that she carries with her, believe it or not. And she daubs that on my face. So, it's like she knows the drill. If there is a visible mark, then that's got to be taken care of.'' Before leaving, Miscavige turned to Hawkins. "He says to me, 'Do you know why I beat you up?' " "I say, 'No, sir.' " "He says, 'To show you who's in charge.' '' Church executive Amy Scobee previously told the Times about a day she was working in her office cubicle at the edge of a conference room when a Sea Org member landed at her feet, with Miscavige on top of him. It was Hawkins underneath. Hawkins said dozens of Sea Org members had been summoned to the international management conference room. The leader did not like the latest infomercial script. "He was reading out sections of it with great sarcasm. And then he started pointing at me and saying, 'Look at how he looks at me.' " Hawkins tried to explain himself, which only got him in deeper. "You see that disrespect?" he said Miscavige shouted to the group. "You see how he talks to me?" Miscavige jumped onto the conference table, Hawkins said. "He's like crouched in the middle of the table, and then he launches himself at me." Hawkins fell back off his chair and landed in Scobee's work cubicle. Two other defectors who attended the meeting confirmed Hawkins' account. Two current executives who were there say it didn't happen. Mark Fisher Fresh out of Langley High School in suburban Washington, Fisher skipped college for a different adventure: In the mid 1970s, he came to Clearwater to help Scientology settle in its newest frontier. He was 17. Miscavige, who dropped out of high school the day he turned 16, had come three months earlier. Fisher and Miscavige bunked with four other recruits on the ninth floor of the Fort Harrison Hotel. Fisher opened his foot locker one day and pulled out his Langley High letter jacket and diploma. Miscavige told Fisher he probably was the only high school graduate in the group. "He said, 'What a waste,' " Fisher recalled. Fisher stayed in Clearwater. Miscavige went West, handpicked for Scientology's esteemed crew serving as the right hand of Hubbard. The bookish Fisher absorbed Hubbard study and training classes, advancing to management as an evaluator of statistics and performance metrics. By late 1983, Fisher was in California, managing a team of five who provided administrative support to the emerging leader. He also tended to household needs of Miscavige, his wife and their dogs. Fisher married in 1984. In 1990, his wife was sent to a work detail as punishment for performance issues in the audio-visual facilities. "I got really upset with it," Fisher recalled. "I started getting disaffected." He hatched a plan: Sneak away and then come slinking back. He would be punished - and get to see his wife. It didn't work. He was ordered to dig weeds, far from where his wife toiled. A second hammer came down. He was stripped of everything he had attained in Scientology - he was an OT7 and a trained auditor. So he rebelled - "I was being really defiant," he said - and got slapped with more work assignments. In August 1990, he was up on a scaffold painting the inside of a garage when in came Miscavige, assistants in tow. Miscavige told Fisher to come down. "He put his hands around my throat," Fisher said, and shouted, " 'You want to sue Scientology?' " Fisher said he collapsed and curled up as Miscavige kicked and punched him and pulled the hair on the back of his head. Fisher stood, touched the back of his head, showed his bloody palm and told Miscavige: "You notice I did not lay one finger on you." That was the end for Fisher. "I didn't join Scientology to see people get beat up." Morehead said he witnessed this, as did defector Marc Headley. But Yager said he was present and, "at no time did Mr. Miscavige strike or otherwise harm Fisher." Bruce Hines Hines remembers back to the mid 1990s and the unmistakable sound of Miscavige's footsteps coming down the hall. "Where is that m-----f-----?" he heard Miscavige shout. Hines was in Room 106 of the Del Sol executive offices. A veteran auditor, Hines usually worked at the church's Celebrity Centre in Hollywood. He said he counseled Nicole Kidman and Kirstie Alley. But counseling the wife of one of Miscavige's favorite speech writers had not gone well, and Hines had been called back to the base. Hines braced himself as the footsteps drew near. Miscavige poked his head in the office, Hines recalled, and said: "There he is." Without another word, Hines said, "He hit me in the head. He just hit me in the head, in the side of the head," an open-handed blow. "It did sting and it did knock me back. And then he got right up in my face and was kind of yelling at me. Then he walked out. The next thing I knew, I was on the RPF." Scientology bills its Rehabilitation Project Force as an opportunity for wayward Sea Org members to find redemption through manual labor. Some defectors say it can be abused. Hines said he spent three years on the RPF, on a labor crew that cleared land, painted old mobile homes and built sheds at Happy Valley, a church-owned tract about 10 miles from the base. Finally authorized to return to the base, he reunited with his wife and their son, who was born in 1984, prior to a church ban on children imposed on Sea Org members. It took all of three weeks for him to land back on the RPF. His offense? He didn't stand up when Miscavige came into a room. This time was worse. He lived in an 8-by-10-foot shed and slept on concrete. He couldn't talk to anyone. He was under constant guard. Letters he wrote his wife were read and returned to him. She divorced him while he toiled in isolation. Looking back at his six years in the RPF, Hines views it as a mind-control technique. "In the RPF, they try to get you to take responsibility. You are supposed to confront the evil things you did, and deal with those in auditing. You are there because you are evil." "And you are there because you were destructive, and you were destructive because you were acting on your evil purposes. And I, the whole time I was in the RPF, I am trying to convince myself that it was me, it was my own fault." In 2001, he was sent to work in the church's offices in New York City. He was on the roof, chipping tar, when the planes hit the World Trade Center. He went to ground zero and volunteered. By 2003, Hines had lost interest in Scientology. The rich mix of life in New York, he said, "made this whole military lifestyle of the Sea Org seem kind of ludicrous." He made his way by bus to Denver, where he had grown up. He finished college in 2006, with a degree in physics, and this summer completed his master's in electrical engineering. Marc Headley Headley made movies for Scientology. By the early 2000s, he was named a producer at Golden Era Productions, the church's umbrella division for its prized audio-visual efforts. In 2004, Headley led Miscavige on a tour of the A/V area. Miscavige asked about a timetable on a project, and Headley said he made the mistake of answering in a "smart-aleck" tone. He said Miscavige pushed him against a shelf unit and started punching him. He fell onto a countertop, and Miscavige continued to slug him in the chest. When it ended, Headley said, senior Sea Org member Greg Wilhere pulled him aside and explained that Miscavige had come from a difficult meeting. Wilhere said in a written statement that Headley's entire account is "a complete lie." A few months later, Headley was on the hot seat again. He had bought and sold equipment and an audit determined $250 was missing. Headley was ordered to the RPF. The next morning, he sped off in his motor bike and made his way to Kansas City, where his father lived. Weeks later, his wife, Claire, made her break and joined him. They sued Scientology in January, contending that the wages paid Sea Org members - about $75 a week - violate labor laws. The church says the lawsuit has no merit. Sea Org members work on a "volunteer basis" and receive weekly stipends. The church covers all living, medical, dental and other expenses, which helps workers focus on their jobs, "without having to worry about paying your bills, cooking dinner, paying property taxes or this and that." A CHANGED MAN Most of the defectors said that the church tried to get them to stay, saying it would be a monumental mistake to give up their chance to reach eternal salvation and warning that life would be awful in the cruel world outside Scientology. Most started their new lives with little money and few friends. Some still practice Scientology and attribute their job successes to skills the church taught them on interpersonal relationships and how to take responsibility for oneself. For most, the issue is not the religion but the man leading it. Russ Williams left the Scientology staff in 2004 after 29 years, most of them at the base. He says he witnessed Miscavige attack Yager, but he minimized it and kept his respect for the leader. "One time he blew me away," said Williams, recalling when the leader yelled at him nose-to-nose but returned five minutes later with a pep talk: "I've seen you do good work. What happened?" Sea Org life was always tough, Williams said, but there was an enthusiasm and a feeling of accomplishment that kept people going. Over time, that went away. "The flavor was gone. It mutated." "I think he started out meaning well," Williams said of Miscavige. "It just got to him. It just got over his grasp and he started falling into this threatening, nasty way of handling people." Morehead, the security chief, said the same. He remembers going into town and bowling with Miscavige, and the leader smuggling in food from the burger joint across the street. And Miscavige laughing and taking pictures at Sea Org holiday events - including the time Morehead wore a tutu in the talent show. But through the years Miscavige grew more intense, and frustrated when Scientology staff couldn't pull things off the way he wanted. "There was this guy who once was a good guy,'' Morehead said, "who totally turned the church around from what I know L. Ron Hubbard intended it to be.'' Joe Childs can be reached at childs@sptimes.com. Thomas C. Tobin can be reached at tobin@sptimes.com.
2. The video testimonials: Jeff Hawkins (12 parts) yes...THAT Jeff Hawkins who detailed his experience with Scientology in a personal blog. Shelly Corrias (9 parts) Stephen Hall (8 parts) Gary Morehead (8 parts) 3. More testimonials (in print with some photos) Brief bios of more former Scientology members who have come forwardIn Print: Sunday, August 2, 2009
Jeff Hawkins, 63
Scientologists "say they're the experts in organizational technology. … Well, then how come you need to have that level of threat and duress to get people to do what you want them to do?"
Joined Scientology: at 8 or 9, after his mother. Joined Sea Org in 1989. Left Sea Org: January 2005 Career highlights: Videographer, shot film and video. Oversaw production of TV ads. Designed and installed A/V systems. Now: Owns audio-visual design firm. Married to former Sea Org member Claire Headley. With two children, they live in California. "It's not every day you get beat up by the leader of your religion. I was a little bit emotional, on the verge of grief or crying and, obviously, a little angry. I wasn't hiding it too well."
Joined Scientology: at 14, in 1973 in Washington, D.C. Joined Sea Org in 1976. Left Sea Org: September 1990 Career highlights: Statistics analyst, trained evaluators. Became corporate liaison to Miscavige, supervising his household, carrying out special assignments. Now: Divorced his wife, a Sea Org member, after he left. A loan officer, lives in Las Vegas. "(Miscavige) never wants to be alone. If he goes to the movies,
Bruce Hines, 57
Joined Scientology: at age 20, in Denver in 1972. Joined Sea Org in 1979. Left Sea Org: April 2003 Career highlights: Starting in 1987, senior case supervisor evaluating auditing sessions. Now: Married, teaches physics at UC Denver. Son is former Sea Org member. "A lot of people will ask, 'What do you mean he was hitting people? Why didn't you hit back? … Or report it to the police?' It's part of that mind control. You really believe that it's you and not them.''
Joined Scientology: as a child, in England. Joined Sea Org in 1991. Left Sea Org: In 2005, after her husband. Career highlights: Internal executive at RTC. Now: Married to former Sea Org member Marc Headley. They have two children. "I've known a lot people who have blown (left) ... and I know what happens to those people once they get recovered. I knew if I failed to make it to where Marc was, I would definitely never see him again.''
Joined Scientology: at age 21, in 1979 Left Sea Org: 2004 Career highlights: Wrote scripts for videos and TV ads. Says he was responsible for the Scientology slogan: "Know life, know yourself." Now: Married, lives in Dallas. Self-employed commercial artist. Divorced former wife while leaving Sea Org. On arriving at California base:
Shelly Corrias, 48 Joined Scientology: at 17, in Portland, Ore., in 1978. Joined Sea Org in 1983. Left Sea Org: September 2002 Career highlights: Produced promotional materials and books. Now: Owns digital printing company in Portland. Former husband is in Scientology. Referring to the Sea Org ban on children: "I see mothers with their kids. My fiance has kids, and now he has a grandchild. It bugs the hell out
of me that I never had a kid.
Joined Scientology: as a child with parents. Joined Sea Org at 13, in 1979 in Los Angeles. Left Sea Org: 1997 Career highlights: Security chief at the California base from 1990 to 1997. Better known by his nickname at the base, "Jackson." Now: Single, lives in Portland, Ore., works as a tow truck driver. "I was devastated to see what
Joined Scientology: at age 23, in 1980 Left Sea Org: 1990 Career highlights: Worked as a middle manager for construction and renovation operations at the California base. Now: Married, lives in Plains, Mont. Works as a general contractor and manages his real estate holdings. On the time he says he saw Miscavige hit a staffer: "You
Joined Scientology: at age 25, in 1980 Left Sea Org: 2004 Career highlights: Personal steward to Miscavige and his wife, personnel director, supervisor of E-meter assembly line. Now: Single, marketing director for California construction and grading company. Her "affinity'' with Miscavige from working for him for years "didn't outweigh the fear that I always had when he walked in there because you just never knew what kind of mood he was going to be in."
Joined Scientology: at age 18, in 1975. Left Sea Org: 2004 Career highlights: Came to the California base in 1982 and worked in "compilations" unit, which took the work of church founder L. Ron Hubbard and assembled it into counseling procedures and courses that Scientology parishioners see today. Now: Single. Lives in Phoenix. Works as a medical researcher at a heart hospital. "I would still say I'm a Scientologist. … If the organization reformed, I'd likely become active again."
Joined Scientology: at age 14, 1978 Left Sea Org: 2005 Career highlights: Oversaw several operations sectors during 20 years as manager at the church's international base in California. Built network of Scientology Celebrity Centres. Oversaw church's film and taping facilities. As teenager, managed kitchen, housekeeping and grounds crews in Clearwater. Now: Married to former Sea Org member Matt Pesch. They left the church together in 2005. No children. Buys and sells furniture.
Joined Scientology: at age 20, in 1977 Left Sea Org: 2004 Career highlights: A top lieutenant to Miscavige. Key player in legal affairs unit. Miscavige's "detail guy" during lengthy negotiations with IRS; among those who signed settlement agreement. Inspector general and board member of Religious Technology Center, church's top ecclesiastical authority. Now: Divorced from Sea Org member Anne Rathbun. They had no children. Lives near Corpus Christi, Texas. He counsels and audits people who have left Scientology.
Joined Scientology: at age 5, when parents joined. Joined Sea Org at 18, in 1973. Left Sea Org: 2007 Career highlights: Head of Office of Special Affairs for 25 years, overseeing legal efforts, investigations and media relations. Became the public face of Scientology. Was in first group of Scientologists to occupy Fort Harrison Hotel in late 1975. Became chief administrator in Clearwater from 1978 to 1981, then ascended to executive strata of international church. Now: Divorced from Sea Org member Cathy Rinder. They have an adult son and daughter, both Sea Org members. Sells cars in Denver.
Joined Scientology: at age 10, in 1974, when mother joined. Left Sea Org: 2005 Career highlights: Supervised numerous church construction projects in downtown Clearwater and, in later years, at the church compound in California. From 1986 through 2000, had administrative authority over Clearwater operations. Started working full time for church at 14, as bellhop at Fort Harrison Hotel. Now: Divorced from Sea Org member Jennifer Linson. They had no children. Lives in Polk County. Buys and sells used furniture. [Last modified: Aug 02, 2009 02:07 PM] 4. The Church of Scientology's response to the main news article above: Church of Scientology's response: 'Character assassination' by liarsPosted: Aug 01, 2009 08:40 PM
This is the Church of Scientology's response to the St. Petersburg Times story that, in addition to the four church defectors the newspaper wrote about in June, quotes 11 more defectors who have provided accounts of physical or mental abuse by Scientology leader David Miscavige. The Church of Scientology provided 25 affidavits and declarations from current and former church executives and staffers who uniformly describe David Miscavige as a kind, compassionate, inspiring leader who never has been violent or abusive, physically or mentally. Yael Lustgarten's statement was typical. "In all the times I have worked with Mr. Miscavige or seen him working with others, I have never known him to be furious, mad, pissed off, much less hit, punch, kick, slap, choke, push, or inflict any form of abuse," wrote Lustgarten, who left the church staff in 2004 after 18 years. "I never witnessed that, ever." Before the St. Petersburg Times published stories on the church in late June, two church spokesmen and two church lawyers spent 25 hours with reporters detailing Miscavige's achievements, heralding church expansion worldwide and attacking the credibility of the four former church executives who were sources for that series of reports. For this story, the Times detailed its reporting July 22 in a two-page letter to chief church spokesman Tommy Davis. He responded with a binder of declarations and a cover letter that said: "Your sources are clearly liars and their fabrications will have no bounds so long as the St. Petersburg Times continues to report them as if they were news.'' The "true perpetrators of any violence,'' Davis wrote, were "your sources.'' Marty Rathbun and Mike Rinder, key figures in the earlier stories and the highest executives ever to leave the church's staff, repeatedly are described in the declarations as violent and threatening. At least 11 declarations cite instances in which Rathbun was abusive. Former colleagues wrote that he grabbed, hit or slugged them, and pushed them against walls. Guillaume Lesevre said Rathun dragged him by the ear. David Henderson wrote that Rathbun tried to scare him into a confession by waving a baseball bat, then smashing it into a file cabinet. Rathbun, who worked as Miscavige's right hand for years, said he doesn't remember Henderson's baseball bat incident, but he acknowledges that he hit, grabbed and pushed staffers. He said his actions stopped short of causing injury. "I never put a mark on anybody. … I'm willing to admit what I did. By admitting it, I'm trying to make reparations.'' In the declarations, three women said Rinder hit them. Former staffer Shelby Malone said Rinder slammed her against a wall and pinned her head back by pressing his right forearm into her neck. Kathleen O'Gorman said Rinder hit her in face with a clipboard, cracking a molar. Marcy McShane wrote that Rinder grabbed and squeezed her shoulders, told her she was "stupid'' and threw her into a wall. Rinder, the chief church spokesman until he left in 2007, said he doesn't recall the incidents cited by Malone and O'Gorman but said he did grab McShane and shake and yell at her. "I acknowledge I did that. And I told her she was stupid," Rinder said. "I regret it … I feel bad about it." Davis concluded his letter: "You have been provided volumes of evidence to show that your original sources are delusionary, bitter and dishonest; your new sources are more of the same. "Any reliance on these fabricated tales will be further corroboration of the St. Petersburg Times' willingness to ignore fundamental rules
of journalistic ethics in favor of more character assassination."
Calling the reporters "Merchants of Chaos,'' Freedom says Times sources are liars and spends pages objecting to the Times' decision to publish its three-part series in June without interviewing David Miscavige. The Times first asked to interview him May 13. The first story published June 21; the Times offered to talk to him, in person or by phone, any time in between. The paper was told his schedule would not permit it. "We stand by the stories," said executive editor Neil Brown. "We remain interested in talking to Mr. Miscavige." [Last modified: Aug 02, 2009 02:05 AM]
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A Times Editorial
Scientology's ugly truths revealed Scientology calls itself a religion and claims to offer purpose and meaning to its members. Yet for some who worked in the church's militaristic Sea Organization, Scientology provided something different: physical punishment, humiliation, beatings, sleep deprivation, and long and ruinous separation from loved ones. The stories of 11 former staffers, reported in a St.Petersburg Times special report Sunday, are told with such detail and emotional heft that the church's official denials of abuse ring hollow. It takes courage to challenge the Church of Scientology, which has long pursued and attempted to destroy its critics. Yet now 15 former Sea Org members have gone on the record with their stories of abuse during years of working at or near the church's top management. Four of those, whose stories were related in the Times' first special report in June, are the highest ranking officials ever to defect from Scientology. Some remain proponents of the church's mission, but they say that since Scientology founder L. Ron Hubbard died in 1986, current chairman David Miscavige has taken the church in a new and dehumanizing direction. They describe Miscavige as a brilliant yet brutal man who delights in assaulting and subjugating employees. Fear of Miscavige apparently permeated the church's 500-acre international base in the desert outside Los Angeles. Former Sea Org members reported being subjected to or witnessing Miscavige slapping or pummeling staff members. For punishment, they said Sea Org members working at the base were thrown into a lake, had to jog for hours around a dirt track in the desert heat, were assigned to do manual labor - sometimes for years - or were forced to spend weeks in a guarded tent camp where they had to bathe and use a makeshift latrine in full view of others. Sea Org members who did not meet expectations were forced to confess in front of a jeering crowd of hundreds. Emerging from the Times reports is a possible answer to the pervasive question of why Sea Org members stay and endure such treatment. Most of those interviewed by the Times became members of Scientology as young children or impressionable teenagers. When they later joined the Sea Org, they signed billion-year contracts, promising to serve the church throughout eternity. The church took a controlling, paternalistic role, becoming the sole source of food, housing and medical care for staffers. Sea Org members were paid only about $75 a week, which left them impoverished. The church kept on file "confessionals" members were required to write in which they admitted shortcomings and freed the church of liability. And if they married another church staffer and later wanted to defect, they faced leaving their spouse behind. As more people who have escaped the grip of the Church of Scientology come forward to tell their stories, the secrecy that has been a hallmark of the church's internal operations is being stripped away. The truth is that this organization abuses people to advance its quest to become a global force, and even the church's ever-present public relations machine cannot put a pretty face on that. [Last modified: Aug 03, 2009 06:35 PM] http://www.tampabay.com/o...rials/article1024459.ece
"How about that? You hold on to the tin cans and then this guy
asks you a bunch of questions, and if you pay enough money you get to join the master race. How's that for a religion?" -- Frank Zappa, to a concert audience at the Rockpile, Toronto, May 1969 "There's one thing that has stayed constant throughout time. It's an instinctual part of man to conquer evil. The battle of good over evil in this world has not changed. It has remained constant throughout the millennia." - Kyle Thomas Brennan
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RyanK from Plymouth, UK Aug 3rd, 2009 7:03 pm Thank u for your expose. I have had doubts about the church for a while now. These articles just prove how I have been feeling. ^^^Scientologist comment
"How about that? You hold on to the tin cans and then this guy
asks you a bunch of questions, and if you pay enough money you get to join the master race. How's that for a religion?" -- Frank Zappa, to a concert audience at the Rockpile, Toronto, May 1969 "There's one thing that has stayed constant throughout time. It's an instinctual part of man to conquer evil. The battle of good over evil in this world has not changed. It has remained constant throughout the millennia." - Kyle Thomas Brennan |
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Hee hee.....I was just thinking the same thing! My sister lives in Portland and she's single..........
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