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Posts: 720 01/29/08 19:07:43	Tags : None Stick to Couch Jumping Tom Cruise's gonna need one mighty cocktail when he hears how his peers are pooh-poohing his latest performance…And we ain't talkin' about that Scientology vid. Cruise Blues? Before we get to further electronic celeb pie throwing, let's check in on a dude who's essentially just one big walking banana-cream recipient these days. Tom Cruise-you may have heard of him, Katie Holmes' hubby?-has not been making the best movie choices, as of late. See Lions for Lambs? Yeah, neither did anybody else. Now, I dunno, maybe the boyish job Tommy's got lined up later, The Hardy Men, with Ben Stiller, will help put T.C. back toward the cinematic top, who the ef knows? What I do have knowledge of is this: Sources who have seen footage from Cruise's upcoming Nazi era flick, Valkyrie, say that after the movie's release, Cruise's career "will be over." Yikes, sounds awfully damning. Why such a hideous predic? "Because [Cruise] sounds like he's doing a high school version of 'Springtime for Hitler,' " bitched our superconnected insider. "And then, as if that's not enough, you should see Cruise's scenes with the other actors." What's wrong there? we inquired. "They can actually act," responded our most reliable, and supercritical, informer. "Doesn't make Tom look good. He will not be coming back after this one." How very dire. I'm actually depressed. Say it ain't so, please. Want Tom so to get his Oscar one day! http://www.eonline.com/print/index.jsp?uuid=62046e85-2806-44f2-9fc0-bc4eb7fccf6b&contentType=awfulTruth .... "Nearly everyone can stand adversity, but if you want to test a person's character, give them power." Abraham Lincoln
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NotQuiteDeadYet		#1	[url]	[-]
Posts: 603 01/29/08 19:14:23	that's precious!
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Stacypeoria		#2	[url]	[-]
Posts: 1530 01/29/08 19:15:04	Wow - that's shockingly nasty. I've never thought MTP was a horrible actor, just one with a limited range. He has given a few good performances, though. "Only to the senseless, does the Truth appear to be an insult." St. Apollonius
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madame duran		#3	[url]	[-]
Posts: 3509 01/29/08 19:32:06	I've never thought MTP was a horrible actor, just one with a limited range. Ahhhh...wouldn't you say that having a wide range (among other things) is the mark of a good actor? Being mediocre is just as bad as being completely inept, IMO. Tom Cruise's acting either irritates or bores me.
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honestbabe		#4	[url]	[-]
Posts: 103 01/29/08 19:47:44	Well, well, well... can't say I feel sad for old Tom . He seems to play himself in every role anyway...
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redpecker		#5	[url]	[-]
Posts: 1534 01/29/08 19:50:04	Cruise's problem apart from the fact that he is limited in the talent area stems from the fact that he is pretty lazy as an actor IMO. Talent is talent but it needs to be used and worked on, actors learn as they go along and a little talent can go a very long way. He was never going to improve by doing the same type of roles, only venturing out for a Magnolia or Interview with a Vampire once in a while. Despite his "good father" persona, does anyone see him playing the role Sean Penn played in Mystic River, having the kind of turmoil he showed on screen when tragedy occured? Could he have played Brad Pitt's role in Babel, and Brad didn't have to do anything other than look pained? I mentioned these 2 because they are basically the same age and he starred in movies with each of them. Can he even match up the actresses in his age group on the screen? It is not even that his acting may be sub-par, it is that he is an unlikely actor to be cast for roles, character roles for an actor his age. It is now weird to see him trying to be a character in a Fall movie. Can anyone imagine him in any kind of role in 10 years time? If he was the same actor in Born on The Fourth of July then he could have done truly good to great things as an actor but he loved being a summer BO hero too much. He managed to snag 3 Oscar nom.
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outofzbox		#6	[url]	[-]
Posts: 468 01/29/08 20:10:37	So-- the greatest love EVAH has officially destroyed them both. I can't really say I feel sorry for them. They did it to themselves, just too much famewhoring, now nobody respects them at all. CTC was never a great actor, but he could at least command a movie cuz of his image. Without it, he really has nothing left. And KAK, if she did truly go into this eyes wide open, looking for fame and better movie roles, then she is getting exactly what she deserves. NOTHING. She has nothing, no career, a sham marriage, no soul, a daughter who will be swallowed up by the CULT. Honey, when you dance with the Devil, he's gonna step on your toes!!
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FengShoe		#7	[url]	[-]
Posts: 720 01/29/08 20:12:47	Personally, I think "advancing" in $cientology killed CTC's emotions. Most of his better roles were a long time ago, before he attained his supah powarz. Same thing is happening to Katie, although she wasn't that great to start with, some critics agree she had promise. Now she's a RonBot. Neither of them would recognize an honest feeling if it slapped them in the face. No wonder they can't convey them. "Nearly everyone can stand adversity, but if you want to test a person's character, give them power." Abraham Lincoln
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steelkite		#8	[url]	[-]
Posts: 415 01/29/08 20:30:33	outofzbox wrote: So-- the greatest love EVAH has officially destroyed them both. I can't really say I feel sorry for them. They did it to themselves, just too much famewhoring, now nobody respects them at all. CTC was never a great actor, but he could at least command a movie cuz of his image. Without it, he really has nothing left. And KAK, if she did truly go into this eyes wide open, looking for fame and better movie roles, then she is getting exactly what she deserves. NOTHING. She has nothing, no career, a sham marriage, no soul, a daughter who will be swallowed up by the CULT. Honey, when you dance with the Devil, he's gonna step on your toes!! Hiyyyyyyyy-YAH! (Kite nodding enthusiastically in agreement) And I don't celebrate this because I wish them ill, but because I wish them healthy.
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princesspeach		#9	[url]	[-]
Posts: 9669 01/29/08 23:13:47	And I don't celebrate this because I wish them ill, but because I wish them healthy. If this is what it will take to get them both to wake up, then rock on, I say. Today's Deep Thoughts A day without sunshine is like night. The early bird may get the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese in the trap. On the other hand, you have different fingers. Kitsch In Sink.
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outofzbox		#10	[url]	[-]
Posts: 468 01/30/08 00:16:05	Me too!!! Me too, you guys, really... I don't wish ill upon either of them, but if it takes both of them hitting rock bottom to understand that their behavior is just not acceptable, then so be it. I wish they could be true to themselves and be happy in that truth. If this really is the greatest love evah, then stop with all the deception and over the top, shoving it down our throats, and quietly go away and cultivate your love and bind your family in intimacy. If this is all a sham, then find a way to bow out gracefully and get on with your lives. Find the real meaning of love and be true to that love and to yourselves. I don't hate either of them. I think both of them have become tragic products of the outlandish environment that is fame in Hollywood, both seeking to become something that they thought was better than who they really are. But here's the thing, we are who we are and if you are afraid of yourself, no matter how much glitz and glamour and rhetoric you surround yourself with, at the end of the day, you still only have yourself and if you can't be true to that, then you have nothing...
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chaotic2		#11	[url]	[-]
Posts: 2617 01/30/08 01:19:47	redpecker wrote: Cruise's problem apart from the fact that he is limited in the talent area stems from the fact that he is pretty lazy as an actor IMO. Talent is talent but it needs to be used and worked on, actors learn as they go along and a little talent can go a very long way. He was never going to improve by doing the same type of roles, only venturing out for a Magnolia or Interview with a Vampire once in a while... ...If he was the same actor in Born on The Fourth of July then he could have done truly good to great things as an actor but he loved being a summer BO hero too much. He managed to snag 3 Oscar nom. Wow RP, I was thinking these same thoughts while on FK last night. I thought he was good when he extended himself - I liked him in Magnolia and BotFoJ. But he limited himself by going for all the action roles. With his accumulated wealth he could have allowed himself to be more choosy with film roles, taken more risks and, as you say, improved as an actor along the way, thus setting himself up for an enduring film career. I took his choices as being a sign of pure greed rather than laziness as he seems to be a very determined and relentless person. So can he salvage his career? Has he left it too late now, I wonder? I'm sure it's not too late for him to improve his skills but who's going to give him a gig? By the sounds of it, his credibility is now shot. I'm almost feeling sorry for him - almost. And as for KAK - I too thought she was a young actress with potential. She had a lot to learn - sure - but she had years in which to do so. She had already had the opportunity, based purely on her visibility in one successful teen drama series, to work in films alongside some very talented and experienced actors. Silly bitch should have seen what she had and been ready to roll up her sleeves and work hard for the fame and prestige she so desperately sought. Instead, she took the lazy route.
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maum		#12	[url]	[-]
Posts: 4188 01/30/08 01:30:46	Interestingly, I think they're both quite similar in that they were reasonably good actors at a certain stage of their lives, but they're finding it increasingly difficult to act now. KAK was good as a teenager, she did have potential, not so much anymore. Her most recent part is in fact a return to those teenage days (Sunatha herself described her as something like 'drunk, goofy Joey Potter' in MM). She doesn't have the range to play the part of a mature woman. Tiny has always played 'the guy', the great hero that everyone wants to be. He's managed to look younger than his age for so long, and it's now suddenly catching up with him. I think he's going to find it very difficult to transition to middle age parts.
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Posts: 2617 01/30/08 01:34:33	maum wrote: Tiny has always played 'the guy', the great hero that everyone wants to be. He's managed to look younger than his age for so long, and it's now suddenly catching up with him. I think he's going to find it very difficult to transition to middle age parts. Exactly! Which is why he should have been broadening his range a long time ago - to set him up for the next stage of his acting life. But then, maybe he's been concentrating too much on Co$ and its promises, and not thought strategically about his career.
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cuckooTom		#14	[url]	[-]
Posts: 2996 01/30/08 01:39:54	What I do have knowledge of is this: Sources who have seen footage from Cruise's upcoming Nazi era flick, Valkyrie , say that after the movie's release, Cruise's career "will be over." Yikes, sounds awfully damning. Why such a hideous predic? "Because [Cruise] sounds like he's doing a high school version of 'Springtime for Hitler,' " bitched our superconnected insider. "And then, as if that's not enough, you should see Cruise's scenes with the other actors." What's wrong there? we inquired. "They can actually act," responded our most reliable, and supercritical, informer. "Doesn't make Tom look good. He will not be coming back after this one." How very dire. I'm actually depressed. Say it ain't so, please. Want Tom so to get his Oscar one day! Man, they stole this from the Razzie board! Even though this is not "Springtime for Hitler," the trailer is so awful and so indicative of what's to come, you can only imagine Mel Brooks popping up in it. http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2247&PN=1 "For students of astronomy, an initial flare-up of a star, followed by a faint fire that smolders before the flame fizzles completely is a description of how a...wait for it....white dwarf is formed." Rene Lafayette @ FreeKatie
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psychoticstate		#15	[url]	[-]
Posts: 3960 01/30/08 07:05:29	redpecker wrote: Cruise's problem apart from the fact that he is limited in the talent area stems from the fact that he is pretty lazy as an actor IMO. Talent is talent but it needs to be used and worked on, actors learn as they go along and a little talent can go a very long way. He was never going to improve by doing the same type of roles, only venturing out for a Magnolia or Interview with a Vampire once in a while. Despite his "good father" persona, does anyone see him playing the role Sean Penn played in Mystic River, having the kind of turmoil he showed on screen when tragedy occured? Could he have played Brad Pitt's role in Babel, and Brad didn't have to do anything other than look pained? I mentioned these 2 because they are basically the same age and he starred in movies with each of them. Can he even match up the actresses in his age group on the screen? It is not even that his acting may be sub-par, it is that he is an unlikely actor to be cast for roles, character roles for an actor his age. It is now weird to see him trying to be a character in a Fall movie. Can anyone imagine him in any kind of role in 10 years time? If he was the same actor in Born on The Fourth of July then he could have done truly good to great things as an actor but he loved being a summer BO hero too much. He managed to snag 3 Oscar nom. Couldn't have said this better myself, redpecker. Plenty of actors and actresses in Hollywood and New York make a successful career out of playing the same role over and over, no crime in that. Tommy Girl's problem is that he doesn't realize that - - every picture is going to be a blockbuster, every role he is contending for the Oscar, every film he is the top banana. I thought he was fantastic in BOTFOJ - - I didn't have much respect for him as an actor prior to that but I saw real, honest and raw potential with that role. He WAS Ron Kovic. Since then, we've seen flashes of it - - Magnolia, Collateral, even Jerry Maguire - - but mainly he's pissed it away to be TOM CRUISE. I'm afraid, as Feng Shoe pointed out, that his Scieno-connections have caused Tommy Girl a complete and utter lack of realistic understanding of his career. Not just his limitations as an actor - - but the steps he needs to take in order to resuscitate his career and continue working. Even if he does see it, or even a portion of it, I think Tommy Girl would be inclined to believe that if he immersed himself even deeper in Scientology, it would benefit him. I hate to say that he's a lost cause (at least professionally), but he just seems in total denial over the state of his career and reputation. **************** They're idiots, which I don't necessarily find offensive. But I do find it offensive that they think I'm an idiot and would believe what they're saying. **************** www.psychoticstate.blogspot.com
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nanuq		#16	[url]	[-]
Posts: 3563 01/30/08 07:17:49	You can run while things blow up behind you and call it an acting career, but at Cruise's age you lose a step and the moobs start to jiggle and next thing you know you actually have to act. He can start any time now.
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Everloony		#17	[url]	[-]
Posts: 402 01/30/08 07:29:57	I can't wait to see this stinker flop. Maybe that'll bring him back to his senses? Doubtful, but I like to be optimistic.
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Hippo		#18	[url]	[-]
Posts: 3932 01/30/08 07:47:11	I keep hoping they'll re-shoot part of Valkyrie--Tom's scenes could be re-done with THOMAS KRETSCHMANN, who they should have hired in the first place. This is not un-heard of: I think it was Warner Bros. who didn't like the Exorcist prequel movie when it was done. They hired another director and re-shot it. They hired the same actor for the lead, but the story is slightly different. That's why there are two Exorcist "Prequel" movies.
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Craptaculous.survivorsucks		#19	[url]	[-]
Posts: 1458 01/30/08 08:33:39	I like the idea of picturing Tommy is some of the most memorable roles of the last 30 years...let's pick some of our favorite movies/roles and see... Tom as Young Vito Corleone (Godfather II)? Tom as John Nash (Beautiful Mind)? Tom as Johnny Cash (Walk the Line)? Tom as Jeffrey Goines (12 Monkeys)? Tom as Everett (O Brother)?
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Hippo		#20	[url]	[-]
Posts: 3932 01/30/08 10:34:01	To Craptaculous: Oh, I love this! How about Tom as: The Omar Sharif character from Dr. Zhivago? Replacing Peter O'Toole in Lawrence of Arabia? Tom as Rhett Butler in Gone With The Wind? Replacing Patrick Swayze in Ghost? Taking Steve Martin's role in L.A. Story?
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