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Apr 30 09 7:35 AM
GoebbelsRedux wrote: Psychotic, we couldn't see things more differently. If you're a conspiracy theorist, wouldn't a trip to the stools this week benefit Adam rather than Danny? I think the concensus is Adam has had this contest sewn up for some time, so it's voter complacency, not fan base, that put Adam in danger yesterday. The fear and panic those results produced will make sure it doesn't happen again--you can bank on it! No way do the powers that be want Danny for their Idol. Seriously, the guy has a good voice, but I can't even look at him without thinking of a pervy televangelist who preys on unsuspecting girls...or boys.... * shivers * Those people are hard to market. (By the way, I was being facetious when I said I voted for him). They want Danny for their Good v. Evil/God v. Satan finale, then he'll go the way of Blake and Diana and my darling Bo.
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Apr 30 09 7:45 AM
PP, regarding Douchey as an artist - - Taylor Hicks. He won and look how he's doing. I wouldn't have called TH for longetivity or mass market appeal - - the same as I would define Douchey. After all, who exactly (besides our lovely GR and the state of Wisconsin) is voting for this tool? Nearly every other forum and blog I go to, the majority of people do not like him and claim not to vote for him. So who is? And would these same people who are supposedly voting for him really shell out hard earned money to buy a CD of his?
Regarding my conspiracy theory - - I think if Douchey Gokey wins the whole thing, TPTB figure the Glamberts can't scream too loudly when Adam has been in the Bottom 3 or Bottom 2 at least once. They can claim see, it's been shown in the past that either Adam doesn't have as many fans as Douchey, or they aren't power voting. With Douchey never sitting in the Bottom 2 or Bottom 3, they can say he obviously receives the lion's share of the votes.
And I think TPTB want Douchey Gokey to win because he has a better backstory. His wife died a month before his Idol auditions. He met now best friend Jamar (I think?) at the auditions and they made it thru to Hollywood Week together before J. was cut. I think once Gokey wins, they will play down the Sunday School connection. Compare that to Adam F. Lambert, who is out and proud, who has paraded about on stage in women's undergarments, who seems perfectly suited for the Rocky Horror Picture Show . . . I totally think Adam out-talents the hell out of Gokey but I don't think it will matter. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised to hear that TPTB have already informed Gokey he is The Chosen One. He never looks concerned or worried during results, he's smarmy, he acts like he totally expects what's coming. This could be total b.s. but I recall hearing somewhere online that supposedly TPTB pulled this same crap with Jordin Sparks - - that they had already decided she was TCO. Crazy, maybe . . . but again, who is voting for Douchey Gokey?
Apr 30 09 9:33 AM
psychoticstate wrote: PP, regarding Douchey as an artist - - Taylor Hicks. He won and look how he's doing. I wouldn't have called TH for longetivity or mass market appeal - - the same as I would define Douchey.
PP, regarding Douchey as an artist - - Taylor Hicks. He won and look how he's doing. I wouldn't have called TH for longetivity or mass market appeal - - the same as I would define Douchey.
Apr 30 09 10:12 AM
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Apr 30 09 10:20 AM
psychoticstate wrote: After all, who exactly (besides our lovely GR and the state of Wisconsin) is voting for this tool? Nearly every other forum and blog I go to, the majority of people do not like him and claim not to vote for him. So who is? And would these same people who are supposedly voting for him really shell out hard earned money to buy a CD of his?
After all, who exactly (besides our lovely GR and the state of Wisconsin) is voting for this tool? Nearly every other forum and blog I go to, the majority of people do not like him and claim not to vote for him. So who is? And would these same people who are supposedly voting for him really shell out hard earned money to buy a CD of his?
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Apr 30 09 10:51 AM
psychoticstate wrote: I see many more similarities between David and Kris Allen, to be honest.
I see many more similarities between David and Kris Allen, to be honest.
Apr 30 09 11:00 AM
Apr 30 09 11:06 AM
GoebbelsRedux wrote: Why is comparing Kris to Archie an insult? David sings like an angel!
Apr 30 09 11:33 AM
Were you being sarcastic, GR? I thought you said you power voted for Douchey Tuesday night? Maybe I imagined the whole thing, I have had a crazy week. I still hold by my theory that Douchey isn't getting all the votes Idol is making us think he is - - I think they are pulling Idol fuckery. I refuse to believe that Douchey would get more votes than Adam or even Tender Dawg/Care Bear. Especially after Jamie Foxx gave Tender Dawg/Care Bear the total pimpage and shout out. Uh-huh, not possible.
Regarding David and Tender Dawg (GR made that comparison, nsp, I never would) - - okay, maybe they're the same size and they both have that innocent little boy quality - - but otherwise, I don't see the similarities. Archie never got creative with his arrangements or took a risk like Tender Dawg Care Bear did with Donna Summer. In fact, Archie was much like Douchey for me last season, in the sense that I felt he was overpraised much of the time and sounded EXACTLY. THE. SAME. EVERY. WEEK.
Regarding Taylor - - the show's treatment of him is terrible, I do agree. The show can be quite the vile little monster, can't it? I personally believe they wanted Taylor to win - - he was older, they probably thought he would appeal to a different audience. Unfortunately, he doesn't have the same mass market appeal that Cookie has, or other past winners like Carrie Underwood, or near-winners like Daughtry and Jennifer Hudson. I believe that if Douchey wins, he will go the way of Taylor Hicks - - maybe allegedly wildly popular during the run of the show, but loses that appeal once the show is over.
BTW, welcome to our little thread, nsp!!!
Apr 30 09 3:48 PM
psychoticstate wrote: I personally believe they wanted Taylor to win - - he was older, they probably thought he would appeal to a different audience.
I personally believe they wanted Taylor to win - - he was older, they probably thought he would appeal to a different audience.
May 1 09 8:59 AM
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May 1 09 11:33 AM
psychoticstate wrote: I stand by my earlier comment that the most across-the-board, commercial and marketable contestant left is Care Bear.
May 1 09 11:50 AM
May 1 09 3:31 PM
So Magical wrote: GR ~ Haven't a clue....hahaha. Husband never claimed to be a fan of Queen or Ziggy Stardust.
May 2 09 10:22 AM
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May 4 09 7:15 AM
May 4 09 7:35 AM
I think Care Bear is the most marketable simply because he's the least "offensive" of the trio (Care Bear, Douchey Geekey and Adam Fucking Lambert). Douchey gives a stalker vibe with his little hand hearts and I think everyone has heard the story of his dead wife ad nauseum. Adam is mad talented, more so than anyone else there and that's been totally apparent since Hollywood week - - but people who are homophobes or have issues with homosexuality may not be jumping on his train. As nsp stated - - her teen daughter is scared by Adam. Adam screams sexuality, whether it be homosexuality, heterosexuality, or bisexuality. Example: I know he's batting for the home team and I don't care, I still find him like sexual heroin. Care Bear is cute and cuddly and nonthreatening in that sense - - he's not sexual in his performances, but he's achingly tender and the kind of cute little boyfriend you want as a teen to hold your hand and be cute and give you a kiss and be cute.
Mr. PS is over Adam Fucking Lambert for the most part. I think the theatrical-ness of his performances are wearing thin on him (not me, of course). He likes Care Bear well enough, but he thinks Douchey Geekey is the most talented. I'm not sure what to make of that. SoMagical and GR's hubbies' flove of Adam Fucking Lambert = David Bowie admiration.
Mr. PS' apparent flove of Douchey Geekey = ?????
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