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Tom Cruise and Katie Holmes 'At an All-Time Low'

Nov 07 2009. Posted by Adam

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TOM Cruise and Katie Holmes are at an "all time low" and the pair are fighting to save their marriage, it has been claimed.

Holmes, 30, no longer believes that Cruise will fulfill his promises to her, according to Britain's Now magazine.

"It's their third wedding anniversary on 18 November and they're at an all-time low," dished an insider.

"The main conflict is between Katie's career and Tom's desperation for another child. The sad reality is that they're not on the same page and want completely different things out of life.

'Katie's sick of Tom's broken promises and wants to walk away for good if the situation doesn't improve."

Recent reports claimed Cruise and Holmes - who are already parents to adorable daughter Suri, 3 - had come to blows over whether to have another child.

"They are arguing a lot because Tom feels he is getting on in age and he thinks Katie owes it to him and Suri to get pregnant," a source told British newspaper the Sunday Express.

"He says he would be in his 60s while the child was young and that's still just about OK to share in the child's life.

"Katie feels Tom is more wound up about this than he's ever been and relations between them are at a really tricky stage.

"She's only 30 and she's not sure about having another baby right now. But then she feels guilty about Suri being an only child, especially as she grew up in a big family herself."

http://www.showbizspy.com/article/194335/tom-cruise-and-katie-holmes-at-an-all-time-low.html

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There have been more and more press articles about trouble in the marriage lately. So, if the contract is actually for three years, not five, then potentially the end will be in less than two weeks. If not, then potentially we have another two years of this cr*#.

I'm getting out the stores of popcorn.

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I believe the TomKat union is coming to an end but the reasons stated in this article are ridiculous. Tom's "desperation for another child? "Coming to blows"? "Broken promises"? Puh-leeese.

I think Tom's PR team should just come out and say that Katie is allergic to Tom's sperm. She wouldn't be alone in that regard.

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See this bit-

"The main conflict is between Katie's career and Tom's desperation for another child. The sad reality is that they're not on the same page and want completely different things out of life.

to me this is the start of it. That is what he did with Nicole.Tried to make her out as the ambitious one and he the doting dad. I am sure KAK is ambitious but I think there is more to this story than just this.

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If he really wants another child so desperately, they could adopt one. He's done it before. No effect on KAK's career then. It's not as if she's the one raising Suri now.

All just excuses for the inevitable split.

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I do think there is some truth to the "Tom's broken promises" part of it. I'm sure that Tom was supposed to jump-start her career, and I think he tried, but he wasn't able to do it. The fact that the two of them are a laughingstock and also that she is not a very good actress pretty much offset whatever strings he was able to pull.

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coreyes wrote:
See this bit-

"The main conflict is between Katie's career and Tom's desperation for another child. The sad reality is that they're not on the same page and want completely different things out of life.
to me this is the start of it. That is what he did with Nicole.Tried to make her out as the ambitious one and he the doting dad. I am sure KAK is ambitious but I think there is more to this story than just this.

Thank you!! Good point. I am for what I have always been for...Katie and Suri away from TOM and out of the killer cult View some of Tory Magoo's earlier videos She literally was chased across the country when she fled. That guy with the recent book out was also chased and the only thing that saved him was I think a car wreck and cops coming and helping him get away. In my view, it is a great thing that Slappy is on the down low at the moment and thanks to ANON and the internet-and I can't believe I am saying it but thanks also to FRANCE for their recent win against the scinos. There have been times in the last few years that we have watched Katie being forced back home and apparently into cult retraining or deeper brain-washing. People in my view are being held at that Gold base out in the middle of nowhere in CA-- I have been concerned that MTP might try something like that on KAK-so I hope still and maybe it is a pipe dream that she and Suri escape the clutches of both tink and slappy

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Me thinks this is prep for the big break. I believe the contract is coming to an end, she has known for awhile it will not be renewed and they are both getting their PR ducks in a row for the annoucement. I won't be surprised if the executive producer credit and role in the up-coming comedy that Liv Tyler "dropped out of" is the final movie deal for her that Tink was obligated to do while they were married.

I never thought she was ever being brainwashed or ever held against her will. I think she will leave this "marriage", Suri will go with him and she will be getting one big fat wire transfer to her bank account for her services per their contract.

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Hippomania11 wrote:
I do think there is some truth to the "Tom's broken promises" part of it. I'm sure that Tom was supposed to jump-start her career, and I think he tried, but he wasn't able to do it.

Tom practically hand delivered her opportunities on a silver platter but Katie messed up each time.

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As for the "desperate for a child" thing...Tom already has THREE children!! Why does the media/PR insist on Suri being an only child???

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madame duran wrote:

Hippomania11 wrote:
I do think there is some truth to the "Tom's broken promises" part of it. I'm sure that Tom was supposed to jump-start her career, and I think he tried, but he wasn't able to do it.

Tom practically hand delivered her opportunities on a silver platter but Katie messed up each time.

Exactly. Say what you will about Captain Crazy, but I do think he held up that end of the bargain. She got maximum exposure and the opportunity to audition for movies she otherwise never would have even been considered for (i.e., Nine, and the never-made Wonder Woman movie penned by Joss Whedon (sp?). ) Still, he couldn't make her a good actress nor could he make people attend her movies. The poor reviews she got for Batman Begins and Thank You for Smoking were entirely her fault. She hadn't even met them when she filmed those.

If she were really smart, she would go into producing with the money and connections she got from him. I have no doubt that the split may land her a few roles but unless she has some acting talent no one is aware of, I don't think she is ever going to be the movie star she set out to be.

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That takes really big $$$. With the money she gets from him, she'll need it to keep herself in cupcakes. Maybe she'll go on to do some TV, but she's no great film actor. Nicole had talent and a grown up voice. Little Miss Katie sounds like a child, looks like a horse and has no taste or judgement. In order to produce she'd need talent, taste and judgement. She's have to be able to make deals, put actors and directors together, have conceptual vision. None of which she has, at least so far.
Nope, to produce you have to be a leader not a follower. Same with directing. She's just a lemming.

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bubbles wrote:

There have been more and more press articles about trouble in the marriage lately. So, if the contract is actually for three years, not five, then potentially the end will be in less than two weeks. If not, then potentially we have another two years of this cr*#.

I'm getting out the stores of popcorn.

And I'll bring some chocolate to drizzle over it! I've also still got some Paxil smoothies left in the freezer -- I can break those out as well.

Incidentally, three years makes more sense in a "Hollywood Marriage" context than five. Especially if she was only offered a three-picture guarantee. That seems pretty small potatoes for a five-year contract.

She can't produce. That takes really big $$$. With the money she gets from him, she'll need it to keep herself in cupcakes. Maybe she'll go on to do some TV, but she's no great film actor. Nicole had talent and a grown up voice. Little Miss Katie sounds like a child, looks like a horse and has no taste or judgement. In order to produce she'd need talent, taste and judgement. She's have to be able to make deals, put actors and directors together, have conceptual vision. None of which she has, at least so far.
Nope, to produce you have to be a leader not a follower. Same with directing. She's just a lemming.

Yep.

So much for "Tom and I will always be in our honeymoon phase..."

Douchebags. Both of them.

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ITA with the pessimism in re her potential at acting or producing. What she needs to do is present herself as a celebrity a la Paris and the late great Zsa Zsa (or is Zsa Zsa dead? I can't recall) and get some endorsement deals. When she cleans up, she still has better features than a lot of actresses and than half the public. She needs to put them to good use.

But in doing so, she also needs to work with a ... some kind of coach to craft for herself a personality that resounds with the public. Old timers like Victoria Principal, middle-timers like Valerie Bertinelli - they have pleasing faces, middling talent and personalities that enable them to star in Lifetime featurettes or peddle beauty stuff. Dont' laugh, it's remunerative!

She could also spend a few bucks on acting lessons, but if what we hear about her arrogance is accurate, she probably won't believe she needs them.

In all, she's sitting pretty and in a financial situation that 90% of the population would be extremely grateful for.

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I believe Zsa Zsa is still alive. In poor health, but alive.

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She can't produce. That takes really big $$$. With the money she gets from him, she'll need it to keep herself in cupcakes. Maybe she'll go on to do some TV, but she's no great film actor. Nicole had talent and a grown up voice. Little Miss Katie sounds like a child, looks like a horse and has no taste or judgement. In order to produce she'd need talent, taste and judgement. She's have to be able to make deals, put actors and directors together, have conceptual vision. None of which she has, at least so far.
Nope, to produce you have to be a leader not a follower. Same with directing. She's just a lemming.

Good point. When I said "producer" I meant one a la the late Dodi al-Fayed who even won an Oscar for Chariots of Fire. Basically, Dodi had this billionaire father pony up the money for him and Dodi got the credit. You are right, though, she probably won't get that kind of money from MTP and Xenu knows, she doesn't have the talent to be a real producer like you describe.

BTW, LOL at Little Miss Katie sounds like a child, looks like a horse.

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Zsa Zsa is about 95 and is being cared for by her much-younger husband.

Once in a while, the paparazzi get a shot of them. She's in a wheelchair and unrecognizable.

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Posts: 999 11/07/09 18:11:53	Tags : None This is pretty much how we all expect the end of the contract to play out, isn't it?: Tom Cruise and Katie Holmes 'At an All-Time Low' Nov 07 2009. Posted by Adam katie holmes tom cruise TOM Cruise and Katie Holmes are at an "all time low" and the pair are fighting to save their marriage, it has been claimed. Holmes, 30, no longer believes that Cruise will fulfill his promises to her, according to Britain's Now magazine. "It's their third wedding anniversary on 18 November and they're at an all-time low," dished an insider. "The main conflict is between Katie's career and Tom's desperation for another child. The sad reality is that they're not on the same page and want completely different things out of life. 'Katie's sick of Tom's broken promises and wants to walk away for good if the situation doesn't improve." Recent reports claimed Cruise and Holmes - who are already parents to adorable daughter Suri, 3 - had come to blows over whether to have another child. "They are arguing a lot because Tom feels he is getting on in age and he thinks Katie owes it to him and Suri to get pregnant," a source told British newspaper the Sunday Express. "He says he would be in his 60s while the child was young and that's still just about OK to share in the child's life. "Katie feels Tom is more wound up about this than he's ever been and relations between them are at a really tricky stage. "She's only 30 and she's not sure about having another baby right now. But then she feels guilty about Suri being an only child, especially as she grew up in a big family herself." http://www.showbizspy.com/article/194335/tom-cruise-and-katie-holmes-at-an-all-time-low.html
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Posts: 1486 11/07/09 18:21:51	There have been more and more press articles about trouble in the marriage lately. So, if the contract is actually for three years, not five, then potentially the end will be in less than two weeks. If not, then potentially we have another two years of this cr*#. I'm getting out the stores of popcorn. Never discuss Scientology with the critic. Just discuss his or her crimes, known and unknown. L. Ron Hubbard
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Posts: 3570 11/07/09 18:48:00	I believe the TomKat union is coming to an end but the reasons stated in this article are ridiculous. Tom's "desperation for another child? "Coming to blows"? "Broken promises"? Puh-leeese. I think Tom's PR team should just come out and say that Katie is allergic to Tom's sperm. She wouldn't be alone in that regard. What L. Ron Hubbard said: "A civilization without insanity, without criminals and without war, where the able can prosper and honest beings can have rights, and where man is free to rise to greater heights, are the aims of Scientology." What L. Ron Hubbard really meant: "A civilization without competing mental health providers, without opponents and without battles for legal recognition as a legitimate church, where the most productive Scientologists can prosper and upstat church members can have rights and where thetans are free to subjugate the universe, are the aims of Scientology."
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Posts: 3211 11/07/09 19:17:02	See this bit- "The main conflict is between Katie's career and Tom's desperation for another child. The sad reality is that they're not on the same page and want completely different things out of life. to me this is the start of it. That is what he did with Nicole.Tried to make her out as the ambitious one and he the doting dad. I am sure KAK is ambitious but I think there is more to this story than just this.
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Posts: 1486 11/07/09 19:33:04	If he really wants another child so desperately, they could adopt one. He's done it before. No effect on KAK's career then. It's not as if she's the one raising Suri now. All just excuses for the inevitable split. Never discuss Scientology with the critic. Just discuss his or her crimes, known and unknown. L. Ron Hubbard
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Posts: 67 11/07/09 20:37:15	I do think there is some truth to the "Tom's broken promises" part of it. I'm sure that Tom was supposed to jump-start her career, and I think he tried, but he wasn't able to do it. The fact that the two of them are a laughingstock and also that she is not a very good actress pretty much offset whatever strings he was able to pull.
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Posts: 331 11/07/09 21:08:41	coreyes wrote: See this bit- "The main conflict is between Katie's career and Tom's desperation for another child. The sad reality is that they're not on the same page and want completely different things out of life. to me this is the start of it. That is what he did with Nicole.Tried to make her out as the ambitious one and he the doting dad. I am sure KAK is ambitious but I think there is more to this story than just this. Thank you!! Good point. I am for what I have always been for...Katie and Suri away from TOM and out of the killer cult View some of Tory Magoo's earlier videos She literally was chased across the country when she fled. That guy with the recent book out was also chased and the only thing that saved him was I think a car wreck and cops coming and helping him get away. In my view, it is a great thing that Slappy is on the down low at the moment and thanks to ANON and the internet-and I can't believe I am saying it but thanks also to FRANCE for their recent win against the scinos. There have been times in the last few years that we have watched Katie being forced back home and apparently into cult retraining or deeper brain-washing. People in my view are being held at that Gold base out in the middle of nowhere in CA-- I have been concerned that MTP might try something like that on KAK-so I hope still and maybe it is a pipe dream that she and Suri escape the clutches of both tink and slappy
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Posts: 9249 11/07/09 22:00:33	Me thinks this is prep for the big break. I believe the contract is coming to an end, she has known for awhile it will not be renewed and they are both getting their PR ducks in a row for the annoucement. I won't be surprised if the executive producer credit and role in the up-coming comedy that Liv Tyler "dropped out of" is the final movie deal for her that Tink was obligated to do while they were married. I never thought she was ever being brainwashed or ever held against her will. I think she will leave this "marriage", Suri will go with him and she will be getting one big fat wire transfer to her bank account for her services per their contract.
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Posts: 3570 11/07/09 22:33:03	Hippomania11 wrote: I do think there is some truth to the "Tom's broken promises" part of it. I'm sure that Tom was supposed to jump-start her career, and I think he tried, but he wasn't able to do it. Tom practically hand delivered her opportunities on a silver platter but Katie messed up each time. edit As for the "desperate for a child" thing...Tom already has THREE children!! Why does the media/PR insist on Suri being an only child??? What L. Ron Hubbard said: "A civilization without insanity, without criminals and without war, where the able can prosper and honest beings can have rights, and where man is free to rise to greater heights, are the aims of Scientology." What L. Ron Hubbard really meant: "A civilization without competing mental health providers, without opponents and without battles for legal recognition as a legitimate church, where the most productive Scientologists can prosper and upstat church members can have rights and where thetans are free to subjugate the universe, are the aims of Scientology."
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Posts: 9249 11/07/09 22:44:24	madame duran wrote: Hippomania11 wrote: I do think there is some truth to the "Tom's broken promises" part of it. I'm sure that Tom was supposed to jump-start her career, and I think he tried, but he wasn't able to do it. Tom practically hand delivered her opportunities on a silver platter but Katie messed up each time. Exactly. Say what you will about Captain Crazy, but I do think he held up that end of the bargain. She got maximum exposure and the opportunity to audition for movies she otherwise never would have even been considered for (i.e., Nine, and the never-made Wonder Woman movie penned by Joss Whedon (sp?). ) Still, he couldn't make her a good actress nor could he make people attend her movies. The poor reviews she got for Batman Begins and Thank You for Smoking were entirely her fault. She hadn't even met them when she filmed those. If she were really smart, she would go into producing with the money and connections she got from him. I have no doubt that the split may land her a few roles but unless she has some acting talent no one is aware of, I don't think she is ever going to be the movie star she set out to be.
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Posts: 1024 11/08/09 00:39:45	That takes really big $$$. With the money she gets from him, she'll need it to keep herself in cupcakes. Maybe she'll go on to do some TV, but she's no great film actor. Nicole had talent and a grown up voice. Little Miss Katie sounds like a child, looks like a horse and has no taste or judgement. In order to produce she'd need talent, taste and judgement. She's have to be able to make deals, put actors and directors together, have conceptual vision. None of which she has, at least so far. Nope, to produce you have to be a leader not a follower. Same with directing. She's just a lemming.
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Posts: 9730 11/08/09 09:11:08	bubbles wrote: There have been more and more press articles about trouble in the marriage lately. So, if the contract is actually for three years, not five, then potentially the end will be in less than two weeks. If not, then potentially we have another two years of this cr*#. I'm getting out the stores of popcorn. And I'll bring some chocolate to drizzle over it! I've also still got some Paxil smoothies left in the freezer -- I can break those out as well. Incidentally, three years makes more sense in a "Hollywood Marriage" context than five. Especially if she was only offered a three-picture guarantee. That seems pretty small potatoes for a five-year contract. She can't produce. That takes really big $$$. With the money she gets from him, she'll need it to keep herself in cupcakes. Maybe she'll go on to do some TV, but she's no great film actor. Nicole had talent and a grown up voice. Little Miss Katie sounds like a child, looks like a horse and has no taste or judgement. In order to produce she'd need talent, taste and judgement. She's have to be able to make deals, put actors and directors together, have conceptual vision. None of which she has, at least so far. Nope, to produce you have to be a leader not a follower. Same with directing. She's just a lemming. Yep. So much for "Tom and I will always be in our honeymoon phase..." Douchebags. Both of them. "Say it" I demanded, "Out loud." Bella spun around and looked me in the eye. The wrong emotion was written across her face. Instead of fear she lookedâ�¦supportive? "You're gay," She said in a clear strong voice. I just HAD to : Last Edited By: princesspeach 11/08/09 09:16:34. Edited 1 time.
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Posts: 2902 11/08/09 11:03:03	ITA with the pessimism in re her potential at acting or producing. What she needs to do is present herself as a celebrity a la Paris and the late great Zsa Zsa (or is Zsa Zsa dead? I can't recall) and get some endorsement deals. When she cleans up, she still has better features than a lot of actresses and than half the public. She needs to put them to good use. But in doing so, she also needs to work with a ... some kind of coach to craft for herself a personality that resounds with the public. Old timers like Victoria Principal, middle-timers like Valerie Bertinelli - they have pleasing faces, middling talent and personalities that enable them to star in Lifetime featurettes or peddle beauty stuff. Dont' laugh, it's remunerative! She could also spend a few bucks on acting lessons, but if what we hear about her arrogance is accurate, she probably won't believe she needs them. In all, she's sitting pretty and in a financial situation that 90% of the population would be extremely grateful for. "Go to Guns!" What's that, Tom? Violence against who? Psychiatrists? That's not good!
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Posts: 9730 11/08/09 13:34:00	I believe Zsa Zsa is still alive. In poor health, but alive. "Say it" I demanded, "Out loud." Bella spun around and looked me in the eye. The wrong emotion was written across her face. Instead of fear she lookedâ�¦supportive? "You're gay," She said in a clear strong voice. I just HAD to :
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Posts: 9249 11/08/09 20:52:15	She can't produce. That takes really big $$$. With the money she gets from him, she'll need it to keep herself in cupcakes. Maybe she'll go on to do some TV, but she's no great film actor. Nicole had talent and a grown up voice. Little Miss Katie sounds like a child, looks like a horse and has no taste or judgement. In order to produce she'd need talent, taste and judgement. She's have to be able to make deals, put actors and directors together, have conceptual vision. None of which she has, at least so far. Nope, to produce you have to be a leader not a follower. Same with directing. She's just a lemming. Good point. When I said "producer" I meant one a la the late Dodi al-Fayed who even won an Oscar for Chariots of Fire. Basically, Dodi had this billionaire father pony up the money for him and Dodi got the credit. You are right, though, she probably won't get that kind of money from MTP and Xenu knows, she doesn't have the talent to be a real producer like you describe. BTW, LOL at Little Miss Katie sounds like a child, looks like a horse.
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Posts: 67 11/09/09 10:44:07	Zsa Zsa is about 95 and is being cared for by her much-younger husband. Once in a while, the paparazzi get a shot of them. She's in a wheelchair and unrecognizable.
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